Oversubscribed with Brendan Hill Pain is a Moat: How Australia’s Top AI Founders Are Building Global Giants
With Pasha Rayan, Anshul Jain
About Jacky Koh
Jacky Koh is co-founder and co-CEO of Relevance AI, an Australian platform that businesses use to build and run teams of AI agents. Miro reports that Canva, Databricks and Uber use it. Koh launched the company in 2020 with Daniel Vassilev, a high school friend, and Daniel Palmer, a university peer. Koh's background is in machine learning. Before Relevance AI, Koh and Vassilev built consumer apps including PokeWhere, which reached number one on the App Store; their apps drew seven million users combined. Relevance AI raised a US$24 million Series B led by Bessemer Venture Partners in 2025. The three founders were named in Forbes Australia's 30 Under 30.
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- AI, Founder Journey, Going Global, Product
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Start hereJacky Koh (Relevance AI) on Building the AI Workforce and Why Most AI Agents Are Just WorkflowsHis own interview, explaining what separates real AI agents from workflows.
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Key moments from Pain is a Moat: How Australia’s Top AI Founders Are Building Global Giants.
- 2:25SF vs Australia: The 6 to 9 Month AI Gap
- 5:00The 10 to 20 Times Engineering Productivity Unlock
- 8:20How Founders Use AI Agents Inside Their Companies
- 10:54What Twilio for AI Agents Really Means
- 12:39Making AI Agents Relatable for Everyday People
- 15:45Culture, Ambition and the Australian Mindset
- 19:37Autonomous Healthcare: What AI Doctors Actually Look Like
- 22:18The $100B Ambition Mindset
- 31:33Why Hard Problems Create Real Moats
- 33:32Inside Everlab’s Massive Seed Round
In their own words.
“Don't lock yourself into a specific provider. Model improvements are coming out on a monthly or bi-weekly basis, and the state of the art is changing rapidly.”
The path so far.
- Now
Founder and Co-CEO · Relevance AI
- Earlier
Head of Machine Learning · Insurance Australia Group (IAG)
- Earlier
Data Scientist · EY
Sources: bvp.com
Relevance AI on Day One
Relevance AI makes software that lets business teams build and run AI agents for work in sales, customer success, marketing, support, operations and HR, without relying…
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